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19:07 < raji> asac: U there?
19:08 < asac> raji: yes
19:09 < raji> asac: How do I get source for wpasupplicant?
19:10 < asac> hostap git iirc
19:10 < asac> or : apt-get source wpasupplicant :)
19:11 < raji> asac: I talked to you about nm-applet having trouble connecting to WEP enabled network, I think the problem is in wpasupplicant.
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19:11 < raji> asac, I ran wpasupplicant manually, association has failed. Are u owner of that package?
19:12 < raji> asac, apt-get source wpasupplicant did not work for me. I tried that.
19:13 < asac> thats strange .... do you have the deb-src lines in sources.list?
19:13 < raji> asac, do you know what version of wpasupplicant networkmanager 0.6.5 uses?
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19:13 < asac> 0.5.8
19:16 < raji> asac, It looks like I have to set up .config file for compiling the source files. Is there somewhere on the ubuntu site, I get .config file that they use? 
19:17 < asac> in debian/patches there is a patch that patches the default 
19:17 < asac> you need to use apt-get source wpasupplicant to get that ... or download the parts from launchpad
19:19 < raji> asac, Can you look at the wpasupplicant.conf file and tell me if that is correct or anything else needs to be added. 
19:22 < asac> yes i can.
19:23 < raji> asac:http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3af840f
19:23 < raji> asac, that wpasupplicant.conf file is for wep64
19:28 < raji> asac, I pasted the debug output from wpasupplicant at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m29d30e57 , can you please take a look at this log ,if problem is obvious.
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19:33 < raji> asac, did you find anything wrong in the conf file?
19:33 < asac> let me see
19:34 < asac> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m22d3b719
19:35 < asac> thats the example from the package
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19:38 < raji> asac, my file looks like the example from package except dont have key in quotes. Not sure if that makes any difference.
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19:39 < raji> asac, can you please look at the debug from wpasupplicant also, you may spot obvious error.
19:40 < asac> key in quota is important if you use the ctrl interface ... give it a try
19:42 < raji> asac , any other words of wisdom about rootcausing this? 
19:45 < asac> raji: maybe look if "Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT" is something fatal for wpasupp
19:52 < raji> asac, It is not fatal for wpasupp, because it tries SIOCSIWENCODE . Comments in the code says they try this other option, but I havent debug the code in action though
19:53 < raji> asac, By the way key in quotes didnt help either. wpasupp behaviour is same, still failing.
19:57 < raji> asac, another question. in the src file nm-device-802-11-wireless.c, strcpy is used instead of safe string cmp, and on moblin, that was crashing, I changed all those things . Do you want to apply these changes to ubuntu source? Should I send it as a patch to you or you dont care?
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19:59 < asac> raji: try to ensure that driver_wext.c:1523 gets the right errno ... otherwise ENCODE is not even tried i guess
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20:00 < asac> raji: i always care for patches ... please submit a backtrace of the issue it fixes as well
20:02 < raji> asac, I am sorry, I am all new to this,  how do I create patch?
20:03 < asac> in what kind of tree did you develop the changes?
20:03 < asac> in the package?
20:03 < raji> we have git repository 
20:04 < raji> we cloned it from ubuntu src repository
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20:07 < asac> raji: looking at wpasupp source ... supplicant doesn't try to use ENCODE alone for you ... the output would read "... SIOCSIWENCODEEXT, trying SIOCSIWENCODE"
20:08 < asac> raji: cloned a bzr branch?
20:09 < asac> so the errno from the ioctl is neither EOPNOTSUPP nor ENODEV - both would trigger the SIOCSIWENCODE attempt
20:09 < raji> asac, Yes, I think. ToddBrandt knows answer to this. I will find out about that, will talk about patch tomorrow.
20:10 < raji> asac, So you think, errno from ioctl is wrong?
20:10 < asac> yes ... the driver is wrong
20:10 < asac> give it a try ...output the errno you get at the line mentioned above
20:11 < raji> asac, ok. I will try that.
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21:45 < smagoun_> lool: ping
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22:17 < lool> smagoun_: pong
22:17 < smagoun_> lool: I noticed that cheese 0.2.2 is the latest for LPIA in gutsy
22:18 < smagoun_> 0.2.3 is in gutsy, but it FTBFS on lpia
22:18 < smagoun_> (a hildon header file's not being picked up by the compiler)
22:19 < smagoun_> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cheese/0.2.3-0ubuntu1/+build/382477
22:19 < lool> smagoun_: Do you reproduce the problem?
22:20 < smagoun_> If I give you a patch, could you update the PPA?
22:20 < smagoun_> lool: yup
22:20 < lool> smagoun_: Sure; does it affect hardy?
22:20 < smagoun_> lool: yup
22:20 < lool> smagoun_: Ok; I'll fix it in hardy and then update the gutsy ppa
22:21 < smagoun_> 0.2.4 is in hardy, but didn't build 
22:21 < smagoun_> ok
22:22 < smagoun_> lool: In the meantime I assume I should I file a bug against cheese?
22:22 < lool> smagoun_: It only failed on lpia for hardy as well
22:22 < smagoun_> lool: that's correct, sorry
22:22 < lool> smagoun_: You don't strictly need to file a bug; it's a tool
22:22 < lool> smagoun_: No need to be sorry, you didn't say anything contradictory :)
22:22 < smagoun_> lool: I don't follow - cheese is a tool?
22:23 < lool> I just checked https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=cheese&build_state=all and saw it's only an issue for lpia so that I know whether we need to fix other stuff etc.
22:23 < lool> smagoun_: I mean the bug report is a tool
22:23 < lool> smagoun_: We don't require a bug to update stuff; it just helps us around talking about an issue / regrouping information tec.
22:23 < smagoun_> gotcha, thanks
22:23 < lool> But for a "SRU" we *require* a bug
22:23 < smagoun_> SRU?
22:23 < lool> (Stable Release Update)
22:23  * smagoun_ is still new here :)
22:24 < smagoun_> ok, good to know
22:24 < lool> It's described in details on the wiki.u.c
22:24 < lool> But it's a /lot/ of work, so if it's only for UME and for gutsy's UME, I wont prepare a SRU
22:24 < lool> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
22:25 < smagoun_> ok. The bug is hildon-specific, so only UME is affected
22:25 < lool> See the "How" for how much pain it is :)  This is to prevent accidents
22:25 < smagoun_> wow, that section has a lot of words
22:25 < lool> Right, it's only lpia and cheese is probably not widely used outside of UME anyway
22:25 < lool> smagoun_: So you have a patch or an explanation of the fix?
22:26 < lool> smagoun_: I'll take this as an occasion to update cheese to 0.2.4 in the ppa
22:27 < smagoun_> lool: not yet, working on it now
22:30 < lool> i'm a bit puzzled at how it would ever have built?!
22:33 < smagoun_> It would build if -I/usr/include/hildon-1 is in CFLAGS
22:34 < smagoun_> ....but that seems to be the case already, and it still doesn't work
22:34 < lool> smagoun_: Yeah, the .make stuff with includes seems to not work properly
22:34 < smagoun_> yeah. what's this toc2 thing?
22:34 < lool> Looks like a custom build system; sigh
22:35 < lool> Ok, included by src/toc2.make: toc2.makefile.config_vars = $(toc2.top_srcdir)/toc2.$(package.name).configure.make
22:37 < lool> smagoun_: It looks like HILDON_CFLAGS is never added to CFLAGS
22:37 < smagoun_> lool: yup
22:38 < lool> smagoun_: Adding them fixes the build :)
22:38 < smagoun_> right, but src/Makefile is generated (right?)
22:39 < lool> smagoun_: It's patched by debian/patches/hildon
22:39 < lool> smagoun_: Is it generated as well?
22:39 < smagoun_> hmmm, maybe that's all that's happening
22:41 < lool> smagoun_: Can I hand you .deb for lpia to test?
22:41 < smagoun_> sure
22:41 < lool> (I never used cheese)
22:41  * smagoun_ doesn't have the hang of editing patches yet
22:43 < lool> smagoun_: In this case, I "cleaned" just to bring me in a clean state before editing, then cdbs-edit-patch hildon
22:43 < lool> Did the changes, typed ^D, and that was it
22:44 < lool> By cleaning, I mean running debclean or fakeroot debian/rules clean
22:45 < lool> smagoun_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lool/packages/cheese/0.2.4-0ubuntu2/hardy-lpia-pbuilder/
22:47 < smagoun_> ok, got the cdbs-edit-patch to work. neat. Thanks for the help, I know how frustrating it can be to walk new employees through every little thing.
22:47 < smagoun_> lool: trying it now
22:49 < lool> smagoun_: Oh it's not frustrating at all; I understand I probably did more packaging on my side, but I was mighty impressed by what the Lexington team did in a previous life^Wcompany
22:49 < lool> So I'm sure I'll learn tons from you guys as well; I already do :)
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22:50 < lool> I can impress my wife saying that the screen is resistive, not capacitive, so it has no chance to support multi touch
22:51 < smagoun_> :)
22:52 < smagoun_> that deb installed on my Q1 but didn't configure - it complains about version mismatches with llbebook, libedataserver, and others
22:52 < lool> smagoun_: Are it's a hardy deb
22:52 < lool> smagoun_: Are you using gutsy?
22:52 < smagoun_> yup
22:53 < smagoun_> is there an easy way to force dpkg to configure it?
22:53 < lool> It wouldn't work
22:53 < smagoun_> (is the config step really necessary in this case?)
22:53 < lool> The reason for the mismatches is that package were renamed for e.g. the new evolution-data-server; libs have changed SONAME, so the binaries wont work
22:53 < lool> To match such changes, we rename lib packages and rebuild all depending packages against the new lib
22:54 < lool> You are supposed to build binaries against your target dist; I'm building against gutsy now; I would have had to prepare the backport anyway
22:55 < lool> smagoun_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lool/packages/cheese/0.2.4-0ubuntu3~710um1/gutsy-lpia-pbuilder/
22:58 < smagoun_> lool: the gutsy version installs + runs fine - thanks!
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23:02 < lool> smagoun_: Both uploaded; hopefully sound installed and built
23:02 < smagoun_> lool: one more question. RedHat has 'debuginfo' packages that contain symbol tables, etc for debugging crashes. Is there an equivalent in Debian/Ubuntu? 
23:02 < smagoun_> lool: thanks!
23:02 < lool> smagoun_: Yes; we have two things actually
23:02 < lool> Debian creates manually some extra packages where "detached debug symbols" are shipped
23:03 < lool> dh_strip can help with that; you tell him that it should strip the binaries in the .debs, and put the symbols in another
23:03 < lool> And Ubuntu has a buildd-side system where the buildd copy debugging information in some ddeb packages which are kept in the archive
23:04 < lool> You can then use apport when you get a crash to match a core dump with the ddebs and produce a backtrace with debugging symbols
23:05 < smagoun_> Neat. 
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23:13 < lool> Cool http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2007/11/new-magical-blue-circle-on-your-map.html
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00:12 < raji> ToddBrandt: Are you coming to meeting? Everyone looking for you.
00:13 < ToddBrandt> what's the bridge number?
00:13 < ToddBrandt> I was going to call in
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00:14 < ToddBrandt> raji: I try calling the conference room and it's busy , so I know there's probably a bridge
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00:15 < raji> ToddBrandt: Yes. there. Let me get the number for you
00:16 < ToddBrandt> raji: thanks
00:16 < raji> ToddBrandt: 1-8781441
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02:11 < StevenK> ToddBrandt: Okay, I see your update about moblin-applets, which is great -- what can we do in the short term?
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07:48 < dholbach> good morning
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09:42 < StevenK> asac: Ping, when you're around
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09:48 < StevenK> Mithrandir: h-i-m has progressed!
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09:48 < guardian> morning
09:51 < guardian> h-i-m being hildon input method ? so you're trying to integrate it ?
09:51 < StevenK> I'm trying to test it at this point.
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10:19 < asac> StevenK: yep
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11:44 < StevenK> asac: Right, I'm back after dinner.
11:44 < StevenK> asac: Modest doesn't link against xulrunner 1.9 ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/2339/
11:46 < asac> tried to include the gtkmozembed_glue.cpp ?
11:46 < asac> StevenK: ?
11:47 < StevenK> asac: Nope, I'm not sure where to include it.
11:50 < asac> somewhere :)
11:50 < StevenK> asac: Suggestions of where to include it gratefully recieved.
11:50 < asac> doesn't matter much
11:50 < asac> in one file that is in your lib
11:51 < StevenK> What's the ifdef? XPCOM_??
11:51 < asac> actually i wonder why modest speaks to talk to mozembed directly ...shouldn't this be put into tinymail?
11:51 < asac> e.g. a feature to zoom + find text?
11:51 < asac> #ifdef XPCOM_GLUE
11:52 < StevenK> Not sure about that, and that sort of split is up to upstream.
11:52 < asac> (i guess you have the cflags of libxul-embedding-1.9?)
11:52 < StevenK> Yeah, I think I already hacked that in.
11:52 < StevenK> Just trying a test build.
12:03 < StevenK> asac: That blows up even worse!
12:03 < StevenK> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/2341/
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12:10 < asac> StevenK: you trying to build with gcc or g++ ?
12:10 < StevenK> gcc
12:10 < StevenK> I can pass CC=g++ if you really want
12:10 < StevenK> But I consider that a hack. :-)
12:13 < asac> StevenK: look what you include now :)
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12:14 < StevenK> Heh
12:14 < asac> StevenK: a trick is to use:
12:14 < asac> nodist_libdevhelp_1_la_SOURCES =                        \ dummy.cpp
12:14 < asac> thats what i did to libdevhelp to force c++ linkage
12:14 < asac> oh its compile for you
12:14 < StevenK> Right
12:14 < asac> well ... you have to rename the file that includes the glue
12:14 < asac> to .cpp
12:15 < StevenK> Okay, trying that
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12:33 < agoliveira> StevenK: It's only a hack when it's clever :)
12:33 < StevenK> Heh
12:35 < asac> StevenK: have you ever found someone being able to compile the modest trunk=
12:35 < asac> ?
12:36 < StevenK> Nope :-)
12:36 < asac> so are they on crack?
12:36 < asac> i mean they should at least compile their code :)
12:37 < asac> or is trunk a "coding-only" branch for them ;)
12:37 < asac> ?
12:37 < StevenK> I have no idea
12:37 < StevenK> Right, it still blows up.
12:37 < StevenK> I'm dragging myself off to bed, I'll poke tomorrow
12:37 < asac> sure
12:39 < asac> i still think that the clean solution would be to move the zoom capability to tinymail :)
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13:45 < Mithrandir> StevenK: h-i-m> excellent; how?
13:51 < codi> im trying to add my own application to the mobile-basic-flash plugin
13:52 < codi> the flsh*.swf files do not seem to reflect new changes 
13:52 < codi> has anyone tried anything on similar lines 
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14:11 < ian_brasil> codi: have a look at http://ianlawrence.info/random-stuff/location-services-on-ubuntu-mobile/ ..you need to update the xml file
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14:12 < codi> ian_brasil: thats the i followed 
14:13 < codi> but the directory structure has changed and so has conf.xml
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14:23 < dholbach> that stuff should be on planet ubuntu :)
14:24 < ian_brasil> codi: try and download the swf again from moblin.org 
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14:26 < codi> ian_brasil: thats not achieve my goal
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14:30 < ian_brasil> codi: how has the directory structure changed?..in the moblin repos http://www.moblin.org/repos/ it is the same structure as in the example
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14:31 < cod1> ian_brasil : i missed the snip snip in the example
14:32 < cod1> ian_brasil: so my new icon shows up now :)
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16:01 < smagoun> lool: ping
16:01 < lool> smagoun: pong
16:02 < smagoun> lool: cheese 0.2.4 in the gutsy ppa doesn't install - looks like it's really the hardy build of cheese
16:02 < lool> smagoun: (You might want to batch your request with the next ping; command pipelining!)
16:02 < smagoun> :)
16:03 < lool> smagoun: That's strange, it doesn't look like it; what's the exact error you get?
16:04 < smagoun> http://moblin.pastebin.org/9836
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16:23 < lool> smagoun: Ah
16:23 < lool> smagoun: Might be because of gusty-proposed and gutsy-updates
16:23 < lool> smagoun: Try adding gusty-updates to your source.list
16:25 < lool> smagoun: Yeah, probably the updates
16:26 < lool> smagoun: You're welcome to file a bug against MIC to also pull from -updates and -security
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16:29 < smagoun> lool: thanks. I'll try that + file a bug
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18:00 < davidm> #startmeeting
18:00 < MootBot> Meeting started at 17:00. The chair is davidm.
18:00 < MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
18:00 < davidm> Good morning everyone.
18:00 < davidm> Is everyone one present?
18:00 < Mithrandir> good morning, davidm
18:00 < agoliveira> davidm: Hi David.
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18:01 < davidm> Might as well get started
18:01 < davidm> [topic] bfiller to for looking into a better solution for a banner to be
18:01 < MootBot> New Topic:  bfiller to for looking into a better solution for a banner to be 
18:02 < Mithrandir> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Meeting/20071129 is today's topic.
18:02 < robr2> davidm: hi
18:02 < bfiller> I have a fix but haven't committed it yet because of other issues I'm having with hildon-desktop
18:02 < bfiller> I flied a bug in hildon-desktop about the problems
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18:03 < bfiller> hoping that lool or bspencer could help investigate
18:03 < davidm> bfiller, what is the bug #?
18:03  * lool didn't see the bug yet, but didn't try with the flash UI either
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18:03 < bfiller> davidm: hold on, let me check
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18:04 < lool> bug #172426 ?
18:04 < ubotu> Launchpad bug 172426 in hildon-desktop "home screen having issues with scrolling and focus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172426
18:04 < bfiller> davidm: bug number 172426
18:04 < davidm> bfiller, thanks
18:04 < davidm> lool, can you take a look at this?
18:05 < bfiller> note, could be a moblin issue and not a problem with hildon-desktop, just not sure yet
18:05 < lool> davidm: If I can reproduce it, I guess I could try to investigate
18:05 < davidm> thanks
18:05 < bfiller> moblin meaning mobile-basic-flash or other associated packages
18:05 < bfiller> is bspencer going to be joining us?
18:05 < davidm> [action] lool to take a look at bug # 172426 and see if he can reproduce it.
18:05 < bfiller> he might be able to assist here as well
18:05 < MootBot> ACTION received:  lool to take a look at bug # 172426 and see if he can reproduce it. 
18:06 < davidm> bfiller, should I carry the topic again?
18:06 < bfiller> davidm: sure
18:06 < lool> I appended it slightly for the end of the topic to be readable
18:06 < davidm> [action] carry over bfiller to for looking into a better solution for a banner to be
18:06 < MootBot> ACTION received:  carry over bfiller to for looking into a better solution for a banner to be 
18:06 < lool> Oh well :)
18:07 < davidm> is bspenser here?
18:07 < agoliveira> Hmmm... Like Yoda sounds like this, yes...
18:07 < davidm> I don't see him and the next topic is his.
18:08 < lool> Pinged around on #moblin
18:08 < davidm> OK skipping the next topic then
18:08 < davidm> the next series of topics relate to USB Client
18:09 < davidm> [topic] bspencer & Don_Johnson to clarify the process and deliverables.
18:09 < MootBot> New Topic:  bspencer & Don_Johnson to clarify the process and deliverables. 
18:09 < davidm> Don_Johnson, since you are here any comments?
18:09 < Don_Johnson> I had a good discussion with the USB Client developer last night.
18:09 < ToddBrandt> here
18:09 < Don_Johnson> I have not had a chance to write up anything for the mailing list yet.
18:09 < lool> smagoun: I appended to your action item; I hope my addition is correct (the one on psb / exa)
18:10 < smagoun> lool: thx, looks good
18:10 < smagoun> Don_Johnson: when do you expect to have a writeup?
18:10 < Don_Johnson> With respect to the question about whether users select folders to export, this feature is coded into the USB Client utility, that runs on the client.
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18:11 < Don_Johnson> To disable it would require modifying the USB Client Utilty code.
18:11 < lool> Don_Johnson: So the users are expected to be able to browse /any/ place on the MID device?
18:11 < agoliveira> bspencer: Hi Bob.
18:11 < bspencer> agoliveira, hello.
18:11 < bspencer> lool, no.  We will restrict them
18:11 < Don_Johnson> It seems like that is the way the USB Client utility is written.
18:11 < bspencer> it is up to us to decide that, right?
18:12 < smagoun> lool: what our group would do would be to hardcode certain dirs so the user wouldn't have to configure anything